What men say when you’ve published a book by a female author

What men say when you’ve published a book

jeanniejeanniejeannie.co.uk BLOG Sunday 16th October 2021

 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY

TO ME: for introduction.

I was surprised going through my avid reader daughter’s birthday list of seven books that all seven were by female writers. Then again when I analysed it, I thought I am not surprised. The publishing world is very much a female domain. Take a look at The Bookseller Official Top 50 very much female dominated Ok, there is Richard Osmon, Matt Haig, Matt Haig, Peter May and Jamie Oliver. Jamie Oliver an author, he’s more about cooking the books. I suppose a handful of others but they have all been around for years.

I guess the real reason is females buy and read books, males tend not to. I have no statistical proof for that statement, though.

I write everyday (and night) and have tried without success to get published since I was 8 years old. I am 72 now. That’s 64 finger blistering years.

I currently put my lack of success down to not my lack of talent (which clearly it is), but that the publishing industry is run by young and middle-aged females who are totally turned off by the work of an old guy like me! That makes me feel better and enables me to carry on writing my poorly constructed works.

I was therefore most interested to read this item about totally the opposite, the comments this female writer gets from men. And believe me I do sympathise with her.

To Deanne Stillman.

What men say when you’ve published a book

 Deanne Stillman – Independent.

“That’s very ambitious,” an editor said recently, in reference to my description of a new book I’m working on. Why not a throwaway compliment such as “sounds great”? I wondered to myself, as I often do when on the receiving end of this remark, which has happened regarding every one of my books before I’ve written them (and even, a couple of times, afterward). Or how about a perfunctory “interesting” or just plain “good luck”? Having heard the comment so many times in always the same tone — more admonishment than anything else — I’m convinced that it’s a way to try to control the endeavour, to take away its agency, to diminish the desire to put the idea forth.

I wish I could say that this is the only slight that has been launched my way over the years that I’ve been writing and publishing and having my work produced on the stage and screen, but it’s not. Hearing it yet again brought to mind an ongoing situation on this front, which is having to experience loaded remarks from men in the literary, film and television world and sometimes from women as well. And while I’m speaking for myself in this piece, I know I’m not alone.

“How did you get that blurb?” an event host asked me last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, while introducing me in public by way of my credits. Is it that hard to say, “Great endorsement! Congratulations!”? Bear in mind that when this question is posed, it’s in public, with many people looking on in person or on Zoom, and so there are a lot of things to contend with (mainly because I grew up in the Midwest, and therefore am well-versed in good manners and really just don’t understand when they are not deployed.) After years of trying to answer in a way that simultaneously respects the event organizers, the audience, and the inquisitor without bringing the proceedings to a complete halt by calling him (or her) a jackass, I’ve finally come up with the best answer: “Well, this may be hard to believe, but [name of person who gave blurb in question] actually reads and he/she liked my book.” Generally met with silence, this response ends all further inquiries on the subject, and also serves a broader purpose, which is shutting down suggestive follow-ups about what the interlocutor fancies I’ve traded for endorsements (yes, I’ve heard them, and no, I haven’t made any trades, unless you count the fact that I’ve read my endorsers’ books, which just feels like the right thing to do).

Alas, when it comes to the annals of underhanded remarks, there are yet more. “Is that book selling?” a reporter asked after a panel discussion at a major book festival, approaching me as others were offering handshakes and asking me to sign copies of said book. “What are the sales stats?” another journalist said, after remarking upon a rave review. This is just crass, at best, regardless of sales figures; the question had nothing to do with the conversation that was underway and was not likely to have been posed to a male writer in the middle of discussion about an achievement.

“Your publisher must have a good publicist,” a colleague said, upon reading news that I had posted about my latest book. I guess this was instead of something, say, well-mannered, such as “How nice that you got that mention,” or going in a completely different direction, such as saying nothing. Sometimes it’s OK to have no response, especially if you can’t manage a decent one.

Alas, one more for the annals: “I’m gonna take you down” – from a panel moderator in a confidential aside a couple of years ago, shortly before a public conversation at a well-attended book festival (not the same event as previously mentioned). I’m generally in the “nothing surprises me” category of reactions, but frankly, I was stunned when I heard this statement – and what was it anyway? A warning? A threat? “Oh really?” I said. “What are you talking about?” “That was a joke,” the moderator replied. “I was just kidding.” Seriously? A throwdown delivered in a whisper out of range of witnesses was meant to get a laugh? Typically, book panel moderators seeking to pave the way for a good conversation say something like “I’m looking forward to our talk” or even the benign “I’ve prepared some interesting questions.”

And now, let me turn to a situation in TV Land. I’ll start and end with the venerable “That will never work”, a reaction I’ve heard repeatedly from male TV writers while sitting “at the table,” the mythological location where stories for TV series are “broken” and then writers are assigned to write them. Yes, “That won’t work” can sometimes mean “That won’t work.” But as someone who has either been the only female writer at said table, or one of the few, I can tell you that the comment also means “That’s a great idea but not until I say it out loud myself as if it were my own” – at which point, re-statement of my idea word-for-word ensues and the rest of the guys agree that it’s a great idea as if I never said it.

To this day, there are obstacles that continue. “What makes you think you can write about American history?” an editor asked recently, in spite of the fact that American history is front and centre in two of my books and runs through all of them. “Still knocking around?” a book salesman asked me, regarding publication of my latest book, as if I might have given up working and finally disappeared.

“What are you doing here?” a critic once said upon spotting me at a party for a newspaper’s top ten book list. “Are you a friend of [famous author]?” “No,” I said. “My book is number three.” Later: “Oh yeah, I had the same idea,” a columnist said after asking about my next project. “I decided it wasn’t very good.”

In all of the coverage and reaction to my work, I sometimes actually learn things I didn’t know. For instance, apparently, I’m known, “in LA literary circles, for a determination verging on obstinacy.” Or was, anyway. This was noted in an otherwise glowing profile published over ten years ago, and when I first read it, I thought “hmmm” and then flashed on being a Taurus, a sign that’s known for being determined and set in their ways. OK, I further considered, so those qualities had migrated to a literary profile, and if I can accept them in my horoscope, why not on the arts page, and via any other vehicle of conversation? I was trying to be fair, after all — I’m from the Midwest, remember? — and I must point out that the statement was made by way of my referencing identification with certain plants and how they break through rocks to endure, which I was discussing because the critic and I were on a hike in the Mojave and talking about how the desert has influenced my work. And yet I wondered, even over a decade ago: Why wasn’t I known for being dedicated and the fact that I have not been deterred from my writing path, come rain, sleet or snow, just like Pony Express riders – or anyone else with a calling?

It’s hard to imagine a male writer being described as “determined,” let alone “obstinate,” even ones who like Joshua trees and spend years writing books. Certainly, this description could be applied to athletes, male and female, but male writers? You’d never hear it. On the other hand, am I wrong? If you can find any examples, please send them along. I would really like to know.

Deanne Stillman has written several books of literary nonfiction, including ‘Desert Reckoning’. Her latest book is ‘Blood Brothers’

Deanne Stillman is a widely published, critically acclaimed writer. Her books include Blood Brothers (Ohioana Book Award Winner; Kirkus Reviews, starred review; “Best of the West 2018,” True West Magazine); Desert Reckoning (winner of the Spur and LA Press Club Awards for Nonfiction, an Amazon Editors Pick, based on a Rolling Stone piece), and Mustang, a Los Angeles Times Best Book of the Year. In addition, she wrote the cult classic,Twentynine Palms, a Los Angeles Times bestseller that Hunter Thompson called “A strange and brilliant story by an important American writer.” She writes the “Letter from the West” column for the Los Angeles Review of Books and her plays have been produced and won prizes around the country. She’s a member of the core faculty at the UC Riverside-Palm Desert MFA Low Residency Creative Writing Program, where she teaches nonfiction.

TOP TWENTY OF THE DAY

Top 20 cat names of 2021:

  1. Luna
  2. Bella
  3. Poppy
  4. Milo
  5. Charlie
  6. Mollie
  7. Lola
  8. Tilly
  9. Willow
  10. Daisy
  11. Missy
  12. Loki
  13. Coco
  14. Oscar
  15. Rosie
  16. Cleo
  17. Jasper
  18. Millie
  19. Simba
  20. Leo

 REMEMBER: The most wasted of all days is one without laughter.

– Nicolas Chamfort

 INSPIRATIONAL QUOTE FOR THE DAY

“In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity.” – Albert Einstein

HAPPINESS IS…

Happiness is…getting a book published (or so I imagine and it is in my dreams.)

GRANDAD’S ONE LINER JOKE OF THE DAY

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

LOVE IS…

Love is…strange.

TURN…TURN…TURN!

A time to name your cat Sooty (to be different…A time to name your cat Millie.

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